[Clayart] Clayart Digest, Vol 2, Issue 54

dianamp at comcast.net dianamp at comcast.net
Sun Jan 17 10:48:05 EST 2016


My last message regarding a CNC clay mixer should have said: 

"it" was used for mixing clay and was very good 
at it. 

"I" was also used for mixing clay and am good at it, 
but that is not currently the topic ;) 

The machine was made in '68 and was bought 
by the University at that time just for mixing clay. 

Diana 



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From: "dianamp--- via Clayart" <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com> 
To: "Clayart international pottery discussion forum" <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com> 
Cc: dianamp at comcast.net, "Linda Coney" <lbconey at comcast.net> 
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:59:27 AM 
Subject: Re: [Clayart] Clayart Digest, Vol 2, Issue 54 

My university has a CMC machine for sale. 
Was probably a cement mixer in 1968. 
I was used for mixing clay and was very good 
at it. 

So it is old, but a good machine, not used 
in the last 10 years. Probably you could 
have it for just picking it up. It is large and 
heavy. 

It is located at EMU in Ypsilanti (near Ann Arbor). 

487 0237 

Diana 

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From: "Linda Coney via Clayart" <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com> 
To: clayart at lists.clayartworld.com 
Cc: "Linda Coney" <lbconey at comcast.net> 
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 11:12:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [Clayart] Clayart Digest, Vol 2, Issue 54 Walker pug mill 

I am interested in the Walker pug mill, but I live in League City, TX. Would you be willing to ship it if I paid in advance for the shipping? I have an account where you would have to package it, and UPS would pick it up. How much does it weigh, and I will check the cost, if you would consider shipping. 

Linda Coney 

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Today's Topics: 

1. Texas Teapot Tournament Winners (bryan) 
2. Texas Teapot Tournament Winners (bryan) 
3. Re: can't help myself, stuff happens (Dannon Rhudy) 
4. Arty vessel (Jeff Lawrence) 
5. Re: Texas Teapot Tournament Winners (Lois Wilkins) 
6. Walker pug mill for sale (Steve Dalton) 
7. Re: can't help myself, stuff happens (MGordon) 
8. VOULKOS (MGordon) 
9. CLAY TO BRONZE (MGordon) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 07:56:26 -0800 
From: bryan <potterbh at telus.net> 
To: "clayart at lists.clayartworld.com" <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com> 
Subject: [Clayart] Texas Teapot Tournament Winners 
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C J Niehaus 1st. Place, Bryan Hannis, Don Rietz Memorial Award [2nd place] 

Bryan Hannis 

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From: bryan <potterbh at telus.net> 
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1st.....CJ Niehaus, USA 
2nd....Bryan Hannis, Can. 

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Message: 3 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:27:02 -0500 
From: "Dannon Rhudy" <dannon at ccrtc.com> 
To: "'Clayart international pottery discussion forum'" 
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Paul said: .... when an artist is working at representational art the artist still chooses the reality that is being represented...... 

Does. Can't be helped. We all have our own handwriting, whatever our medium and/or intent. 

regards 

Dannon Rhudy (where the fog is slowly and invisibly freezing to each stick and pebble...not to mention driveway, log pile and back porch step.....) 





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Message: 4 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 09:28:43 -0700 
From: Jeff Lawrence <jefflawr at gmail.com> 
To: "clayart at lists.clayartworld.com" <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com> 
Subject: [Clayart] Arty vessel 
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Vince wrote about my wranting: 
So you can see that I agreed with you what you are saying and yet you disagreed with me. Read more carefully please. 

Hi Vince, 
Right you are and sorry if I offended you. 
Your sapient observation that current trends produce conceptually competent artists ignorant of materials reminds me of Gaudi's Park Guell. 
Gaudi specified swathes of lead glazed custom painted earthenware tiles for the entrance and similarly ephemeral terra cotta for the statuary - he liked the look. Now, we'll never know what that look was since the glaze and deco long since spalled away and the figures are now mutilated grotesques. 
Best, 
Jeff 



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Message: 5 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:58:16 -0500 
From: "Lois Wilkins" <claywork at verizon.net> 
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Cc: "'bryan'" <potterbh at telus.net> 
Subject: Re: [Clayart] Texas Teapot Tournament Winners 
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Congratulations to Bryan and CJ. 

Best, 
Lois 

Lois Wilkins 
claywork at verizon.net 


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Subject: [Clayart] Texas Teapot Tournament Winners 


1st.....CJ Niehaus, USA 
2nd....Bryan Hannis, Can. 





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Message: 6 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:11:14 +0000 (UTC) 
From: Steve Dalton <ccpotteries at yahoo.com> 
To: Clayart International Pottery Discussion Forum 
<clayart at lists.clayartworld.com> 
Subject: Walker pug mill for sale 
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I need to free up some space in the shop. I purchased the Walker last year from a local school district and as far as I know only needs a new power cord. I have been too busy to do any thing with it. 
I am only asking what I paid, $200. Even has the safety cage. 
I am in Lake Stevens, WA but willing to meet. Thanks,Steve Dalton 
Clear Creek Pottery 
Lake Stevens, WA 
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:17:08 -0800 
From: MGordon <clayart at earthlink.net> 
To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum 
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Subject: Re: [Clayart] can't help myself, stuff happens 
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Vince, I think Pete was more interested in reproduction & edition $$$ 
without having to make more clay work. Mike Gordon 
On Jan 15, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Vince Pitelka via Clayart wrote: 

> Paul Gerhold wrote: 
> "What would be interesting is why he wants the piece reproduced in 
> bronze. Does he doubt the validity or the durability the clay 
> medium?" 
> 
> What Paul said. Why cast it in bronze? I always thought Pete Voulkos 
> took a huge nose-dive in style and integrity in the latter part of his 
> career when some of his huge platters and "stacks" were cast in 
> bronze. What an affront to those magnificent clay pieces. Was it 
> just because he knew that clay is fragile and bronze is not, and 
> wanted his work to survive into eternity? Don't worry Pete, your work 
> will survive into eternity or at least until the next Big Bang. 
> - Vince 
> 
> Vince Pitelka 
> Appalachian Center for Craft 
> Tennessee Tech University 
> vpitelka at dtccom.net 
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/ 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 11:51 AM, mel jacobson via Clayart 
>> <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> i just got off the phone with a tech question from an old college prof 
>> friend. a very skilled older man, and he does realistic sculpture. 
>> he has a scum on his piece when it comes from the kiln. he has never 
>> had it before. 
>> so. 
>> simple, he has to fire to cone 6 and slow down his bisque. 
>> that will do it...and he now knows that there is a lot of crap in 
>> clay. 
>> 
>> but, here is the barn burner story. 
>> not a metaphor. 
>> he wants one of his clay pieces done in bronze. 
>> for his family. 
>> 
>> he called a noted foundry in new york. 
>> talked to an engineer. they guy said `oh, we can 
>> do anything digitally. in fact...why don't you just 
>> send the model, the woman, we will measure her, and make a life size 
>> copy of her and my pal does not have to do a thing. 
>> $45,000. 
>> 
>> my pals brain blew up. 
>> he is a very fine sculptor. 
>> skill to burn. he just has to 
>> send the model. (that is preferred by the foundry.) 
>> 
>> does this story fit anything i have been talking about. 
>> who needs to spend the time to learn, develop skill, learn 
>> anything.???? just send in your idea. 
>> someone will do it for you. 
>> 
>> send your fabric and sketch to china and they will make a quilt out of 
>> it...and sign your name on the quilt to boot. enter a show a week 
>> later. 
>> become famous overnight. 
>> 
>> i don't know. is integrity of art dead and gone????? 
>> 
>> like a told a guy on the phone that said...`can i have the technique 
>> for your black shino tea bowls.????` i said...`why not send your pots 
>> to me, i will glaze them, fire them and write your name on the bottom 
>> with a sharpie.` he did not understand what i told him. did not get 
>> it. 
>> hell, hire someone to do your ph.d. paper. easy. or just copy 
>> someone else's. 
>> no big deal...he has been busy. 
>> mel 
>> from: minnetonka, mn 
>> website:http://www.melpots.com 
>> new book: http://www.21stcenturykilns.com 
>> http://www.melpots.com/clayart.html 
>> 
>> 
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Message: 8 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:32:30 -0800 
From: MGordon <clayart at earthlink.net> 
To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum 
<clayart at lists.clayartworld.com> 
Subject: [Clayart] VOULKOS 
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Pete had some of his clay pieces cast into bronze here. 
http://www.artworksfoundry.com/portfolio/peter-voulkos 
Mike Gordon 



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Message: 9 
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:55:59 -0800 
From: MGordon <clayart at earthlink.net> 
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Subject: [Clayart] CLAY TO BRONZE 
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If you click on "Client Showcase" at the Artworks Foundry site, you 
can see works by Stephen DeStaebler, David Kuraoka & others. Mike 
Gordon 
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