[Clayart] coleman firing

Paul Gerhold gerholdclay at gmail.com
Sat Jul 30 07:13:13 EDT 2016

My two cents worth says if you fake firing results to show how evenly a kiln fires that certainly shows at minimum an incredible lack of integrity both on the part of the company and the individuals involved.

Guess I will have to look at the add again .


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> On Jul 29, 2016, at 3:24 PM, David Woof <woofpots at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Randall, Everyone, and all,
> When I said I grew weary of the Geil/Coleman ads it was not because i doubted Tom Coleman's integrity.   And I didn't fault Geil for milking out the last full teat.  I did chuckle that Tom wasn't telling the whole story about how he was getting the results. 
> But that was Tom's to do as he saw fit because he had paid his dues, raised a family, and so had earned what ever he could receive for it!
> Down firing was still then not commonly publicized, and known then to a closely knit circle.
> Same as with the ooh/aah stuff we were spraying on our wood firing pieces to enhance the ash and flash way back when the rush to "try" to love and defend usually clunky plain brown raw fired "peasant" pots was still an ongoing preoccupation.  I observed Tom and others spraying stuff, as was I.   
> And though being a confirmed educator and generous sharer of knowledge; I hold that there are some things one doesn't tell the "kids" until they have paid their dues, can understand the information and put it to effective and creative use in further exploration, new applications and worthwhile discovery.  
> Otherwise we just generate more copy cat crap.
> Imagine those beautiful reds on first semester Community Clay "door stops" and "land fill." Why and for what purpose?  The form must be exquisite first to pull off and show case a great glaze.
> Nothing is impossibly hard for one who is observing, paying attention, thinking, and has the desire and "balls" to try ideas till one homes in and dials it in.
> Oh sh-- I feel a rant coming down the pipe!!!
> Gotta go now!!! (With Love)
> David......going now to attempt to elevate "Pheasant" pots to a "rage" status. Watch my Video on "My Clay Tube.come.on!"
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>> From: randall.moody at gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:22:02 -0400
>> To: clayart at lists.clayartworld.com
>> Subject: Re: [Clayart] coleman firing
>> I was always dubious of those ads. Too uniform front to back / top to
>> bottom. I looked at them the same way that I looked at the hamburgers in
>> commercials vs. the hamburger you get in the bag.
>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:04 PM, David Woof <woofpots at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ya I grew weary of those ads and my eyes refused to focus, but Tom and
>>> Geil got some mileage I'm sure.
>>> Woof
>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:24:02 -0500
>>>> From: melpots2 at visi.com
>>>> To: " clayart"@lists.clayartworld.com
>>>> Subject: [Clayart] coleman firing
>>>> geil kiln company ran ads of tom coleman
>>>> firing their kiln with it full of all red pots.
>>>> folks thought that was hard to do.`wow, look at the red,
>>>> but..it is the
>>>> only way to fire red.  all the same.
>>>> down fire, use the same glaze, get it hot enough and
>>>> it should fire red. tom know how to do it.
>>>> it sure is not the kiln.  it is the potter at the controls.
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