[Clayart] Clayart (Paper clay bags)

M Gordon clayart at earthlink.net
Sun Jul 30 18:31:31 EDT 2017


Plastic bags? I've only seen 25lb bags. Mike Gordon
On Jul 30, 2017, at 5:59 AM, dianamp at comcast.net wrote:

> Dear Fellow Potters:
>
> Do you have any idea HOW LONG clay bags,
> like those that hold fifty pounds of Cedar Heights,
> can last? That is, if they are never wet, but just
> stored in a shed. Years??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Diana
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Barry Salaberry" <bsalab at gmail.com>
> To: clayart at lists.clayartworld.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 1:00:09 PM
> Subject: [Clayart] value of pots
>
> Value of pots
>
> The recent discussion of price/value of our works has opened an  
> interesting
> aspect of what and why we do what we do.
>
> The freedom to take earth and express myself is mine. What I do with  
> that
> material is mine to decide. Keeping that process, maintaining whatever
> integrity I impose on that process is mine.
>
> If I consider that process to be complete, in and of itself, that is my
> decision.
>
> For me, an essential component of that process is about making  
> functional
> work, things that humans can use in our lives. Part of that allows me  
> to
> connect with my fellow Earth Occupants, and expands my reach, so to  
> speak.
> When I am deciding while making, much of that involves how well I meet  
> the
> functional needs I am able to perceive. How a handle helps a pot to be
> used is important to me, and how it fills my sense of aesthetic call is
> also important.
>
> All of these choices I consider to be sacrosanct, holy, part of the  
> soul
> work I simultaneously pursue in this work with clay.
>
> When another person accepts my work, includes my work into their life,
> expresses a joy as a result of that integration of my work into their
> life, my purpose is fulfilled. When someone likes what I have done, and
> goes so far as to put that work into use, a use I risked to foresee, my
> purpose is fulfilled.
>
> The value of that work, for me, lies in that realm of fulfillment.
>
> If money, the exchange of money, becomes part of that transfer, that is
> outside of that already wholeness, that completeness. Having met the  
> need
> with my work completed the process I have the freedom to pursue, by my
> right as a potter.
>
> Whatever one calls value, when expressed in terms of money, is for me  
> an
> oxymoron...the two are mutually exclusive. Money can be used by me to
> continue my work, but it does not give me that deep sense of  
> fulfillment.
> That 'ca-ching' thing doesn't mean a thing, it doesn't have essential
> value; it remains an item of exchange, with no inherent value. It  
> doesn't
> have meaning, if you get what I mean. I did not make the money; I made  
> the
> pot. The meaning I derive is generated in the making, the guessing, the
> failing, the seeing. When I count the money at the close of market,  
> that
> experience goes on in my head, not my heart.
>
> Getting into price leaves me with a bad taste, especially if someone
> intends to influence my decision based on their concept of value.  
> Because
> other vendors choose to pay a mortgage, choose to buy and own whatever  
> they
> decide, all of those choices are driving their pricing energy. When I
> price my work, I can base my decision on whatever I choose, even if  
> that
> decision doesn't make sense to others with admittedly abundant  
> expertise is
> collecting money. This expertise is called by some to be practicality,
> that without it one will soon fail. Anecdotally, my fifty-plus years  
> speak
> to a different drummer.
>
> So far I have always been blessed with clay to use, fire to complete,  
> and
> time and place to make. That completes the process, the circle, so to
> speak.
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