[Clayart] pissed off mel

[Paul Gerhold]

Sorry you interpret creativity and individuality with copying yourself. You must be talking from personal experience. 

Paul

> On Sep 7, 2019, at 1:03 AM, David Woof <woofpots at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes Paully, if one copies self often enough ie: over and over again. and it gets noticed by "self elected discriminating experts" who are ignorant enough to admire that you could replicate what first *may* have been a creative production of "fine craft" but on replication simply becomes an exercise in the craft of "fine" replication it certainly should easily become identified as your unsigned work because no one else would bother to copy your "signature work!!!!.
> I don't care to argue this with you.  I have no negative feelings or attitude with honest serious replication. Let's just do what ever weeee are capable or thrilled (fulfilled) to accomplish.
> But When you deprecate other's work, words and Ideas such as you just said: <"As someone who makes work because of a love of creativity and the process you have my sympathies    Paul " > (see below)
> I wish to make an excuse for you because that just doesn't seem "right in the head" and would encourage you to get your prescription filled again! Pronto amigo! Hermano Paully.
> 
> Yer ol buddy'kins, Woof.........oops I'm getting yer stuff on my shoes!!!  come on let's lock n load..... rock n roll..... try to keep up...there's an 8% down hill switchback grade ahead......... watch for my tail lights...... on the lower flats ahead....
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> From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartworld.com> on behalf of Paul Gerhold <gerholdclay at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 2:17 AM
> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] pissed off mel
> 
> " There is no point in making fine craft unless it is easily identifiable as your work".  As someone who makes work because of a love of creativity and the process you have my sympathies
> 
> Paul
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2019, at 11:28 PM, Vince Pitelka <vpitelka at dtccom.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Signatures - the very first pieces I made in the pot shop at Humboldt State
>> College (now Humboldt State University) in 1970-71 just had VP on the
>> bottom, but from the start of my own studio business around 1974 I signed V.
>> Pitelka.  Over the years, so many people have contacted me because they
>> found me via my signature on the bottom of the pot.  The most recent was a
>> few years ago - a woman who bought one of my wood stove-top humidifiers at
>> the St. Vincent De Paul store in Eureka, CA.  She saw the name on the bottom
>> and Googled it, and contacted me via the information on my website.  She
>> paid $10 for the humidifier.  We traded a few emails.
>> 
>> As far as I am concerned, there is no point in making fine craft unless it
>> is easily identifiable as your work.  That might be via a style that is so
>> completely unique that no one could mistake it for anyone else's work.  If
>> not that, then it only makes sense to always sign or stamp the work.  I
>> don't sign work anymore except for the most complex gallery pieces.
>> Otherwise I stamp each piece with little homemade bisque stamps with my
>> initials.
>> - Vince
>> 
>> Vince Pitelka,
>> Professor Emeritus, Appalachian Center for Craft,
>> School of Art, Craft & Design, Tennessee Tech University,
>> Now residing Chapel Hill, NC 27516,
>> vpitelka at dtccom.net,
>> www.vincepitelka.com<http://www.vincepitelka.com>
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Clayart [mailto:clayart-bounces at lists.clayartworld.com] On Behalf Of
>> Antoinette Badenhorst
>> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 5:02 PM
>> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum
>> <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Clayart] pissed off mel
>> 
>> My signature is as big as the base allows it to be, sometimes very small,
>> sometimes big and bold. The value of signature were proved a few weeks ago
>> when someone were looking for my early 2000s pitfired pots and found one on
>> ebay. She was very proud of it. I am wondering how it landed on ebay....
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Antoinette Badenhorst
>> www.porcelainbyAntoinette.com<http://www.porcelainbyAntoinette.com>
>> www.TeachinArt.com<http://www.TeachinArt.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2019, at 3:07 PM, mel jacobson <melpots at mail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> it is an old story.  wonderful pots, with scratched/stupid unreadable
>>> signatures on the bottom.
>>> i hate it.
>>> 
>>> wonderful work, worth being in a a museum...and i am going to throw
>>> them into lake minnetonka.  seven pots...world class and the potter
>>> did not have the confidence, or the brains to sign the pots for the
>>> future.
>>> 
>>> LISTEN TO ME....SIGN YOUR POTS LEGIBLY. USE A STAMP, USE A LOGO, USE
>>> SOMETHING...BUT DON'T SCRATCH CRAP ON THE BOTTOM.  i even did charcoal
>>> rubbings and it means nothing.
>>> mel
>>> seven potters missed out of being represented at the AMOCA in the
>>> permanent collection, because they were either stupid or lazy.
>>> 
>>> website: www.melpots.com<http://www.melpots.com>
>>> 
>> 
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