[Clayart] Pickle buckets

Bonnie Hellman mou10ms at gmail.com
Wed Jan 22 08:36:45 EST 2020


I once got buckets with lids from a supermarket bakery. Unfortunately for
me the bucket had long ago previously held eggs. By the time I got the
bucket open, to wash it before using, the eggs had rotted.

Nothing like the smell of very rotten eggs to make you gag.

Pickle buckets, as Vince wrote,  retain their odor, which has no effect on
glazes.

Bonnie
Bonnie Hellman

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>    1. Re: Mastering Cone 6 Glazes--Good News (Dorothy Parshall)
>    2. Re: pickle smell (Cyndy Littleton)
>    3. Re: pickle buckets (vpitelka at dtccom.net)
>    4. Re: pickle smell (Snail Scott)
>    5. Re: role of P2O5 in ceramic glaze (David Woof)
>    6. Re: pickle buckets (sumi)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 09:49:05 -0500
> From: Dorothy Parshall <dorothyp at whidbey.com>
> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum
>         <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Mastering Cone 6 Glazes--Good News
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> Would it be possible for Tucker?s to carry it? (In Toronto)  Dorothy, in
> Canada
>
> > On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:09 AM, P.Colon <pje.colon at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 48.25 canadian @ Amazon.ca + free shipping (preorder)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 07:58 John Hesselberth <jjhesselberth at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry to hear that. I know mail to Canada from the U.S. is expensive. Do
> >> all 3 charge that much? The publisher is in Vermont?I will ask if they
> have
> >> a way to lower that?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 20, 2020, at 10:45 AM, terri roy <troypottery at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Would love to purchase but there is a $30 shipping fee to Canada - too
> >> rich
> >>> for my blood!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 2:21 PM John Hesselberth <
> >> jjhesselberth at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> The color edition is again available! We have been working with Echo
> >> Point
> >>>> Books & Media in Vermont. They have done a nice job publishing it at a
> >>>> reasonable price. Some of you may remember that we stopped printing it
> >>>> because we had to print 3000-4000 at a time to get un affordable
> price.
> >> As
> >>>> sales slowed when the book had been available for several years we
> >> could no
> >>>> longer make the economics work. Well, printing technology has changed.
> >> Echo
> >>>> Point Books & Media specializes in bringing out-of-print books back
> into
> >>>> print. In our case the retail price is a couple dollars less than our
> >>>> original price.
> >>>>
> >>>> You can find it in at least three places:
> >>>>
> >>>> Echo Point Books & Media:
> >>>>
> >>
> https://www.echopointbooks.com/crafts/mastering-cone-6-glazes?rq=mastering
> >>>>
> >>>> Amazon:
> >>>>
> >>
> https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Cone-Glazes-Durability-Aesthetics/dp/1635618851/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3H7IEXADGNPRX&keywords=mastering+cone+6+glazes&qid=1579128374&sprefix=mastering+cone%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-5
> >>>>
> >>>> Barnes & Noble:
> >>>>
> >>
> https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/mastering-cone-6-glazes-john-hesselberth/1136022765?ean=9781635618853
> >>>>
> >>>> There may be other places where it is for sale as Echo Point Books &
> >> Media
> >>>> casts a wide net. There are still a few people trying to sell the
> >> original
> >>>> edition at a high price, so be careful to look for this new edition.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ron and John
> >>>>
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:04:29 -0500
> From: Cyndy Littleton <shorthill at gmail.com>
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> And garlic....don't forget garlic!
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> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 8:40 AM mel jacobson <melpots at mail.com> wrote:
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> > use the buckets and enjoy the wonderful dill smell.
> > it will enhance your studio.
> > mel
> > in most of my recipes i include instructions for studio odor.
> > like 5% iron and two tablespoons of curry masala.
> > of course you cannot beat the smell of ginger and soy.
> >
> >
> > website: www.melpots.com
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:41:58 -0500
> From: <vpitelka at dtccom.net>
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> Hi Alice -
> The lovely pickle smell is persistent, but it will have absolutely no
> effect on your glazes.
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Professor Emeritus of Art/Ceramics
> Appalachian Center for Craft
> School of Art, Craft & Design
> Tennessee Tech University
> Now Residing Chapel Hill, NC
> vpitelka at dtccom.net
> www.vincepitelka.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartworld.com> On Behalf Of Alice
> DeLisle
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 9:19 PM
> To: via Clayart <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> Subject: [Clayart] pickle buckets
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> I recently moved and am setting up my studio. I have been looking for 5
> gallon buckets for glazes and a number of locals have kindly offered their
> empty buckets for free. I picked up 2 buckets from a restaurant today. The
> buckets had contained pickles. I am wondering if the vinegar / acetic acid
> that has soaked into the plastic will leach into my glazes and the acidic
> pH will affect the glazes. I am soaking them overnight in detergent, but I
> suspect that there will still be vinegar in the plastic. They definitely
> smell. Has anybody had experience with pickle buckets?
>
> Thanks,
> Alice
>
> Alice DeLisle
>
> wanderland at att.net
> https://www.facebook.com/IslandTexturesAliceDeLisle/
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> "Not all those who wander are lost?" ? J.R.R.Tolkien
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:14:53 -0600
> From: Snail Scott <claywork at flying-snail.com>
> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum
>         <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] pickle smell
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> > On Jan 21, 2020, at 7:38 AM, mel jacobson <melpots at mail.com> wrote:
> >
> > use the buckets and enjoy the wonderful dill smell?
>
>
> Eeew, yuk?Mel, that?s nasty.    Mine smell like barbecue sauce!
>
> -Snail
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:36:58 +0000
> From: David Woof <woofpots at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Clayart] role of P2O5 in ceramic glaze
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> Hi Paul,
> of course you "may" be "probably" right...Butt...unless you have been a
> *functioning* money making...Kid raising, spouse pleasing, tax paying
> "functional potter" how can you so presumptuously generalize as to what a
> "Functional Potter" knows, understands, or finds useful in their
> professional function of making serious functioning works of Domestic
> Utility???
>
> "Some" of the notable folks in their works with clay sculpture endeavors,
> are happy to put a 3% shot of Bentonite into their Fireclay and brag about
> their clay body formula and don't give "jack" about knowing or learning
> more. (please notice I said "some folks" and did not generalize!!!!)
>
> Many Others, some of who have worked both sides of the coin and know a
> whole lotta what we need to know in both fields as well as the "Jack
> Sh..."  we'll never need to know except for the sheer joy of knowing, and
> to know when someone else is posing, huffin and puffin out the wrong
> orifice. <};>0)==={#######<
>
> Be well cousin,
> Long life to you,  carry your heart in your tool box, use it often!!!!
> David
>
> ##########################################$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$######################
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> ________________________________
> From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartworld.com> on behalf of paul
> gerhold <gerholdclay at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 2:29 PM
> To: Carol Marians <carol at knighten.org>; Clayart international pottery
> discussion forum <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] role of P2O5 in ceramic glaze
>
> This may  heresy but isn?t the empirical just pseudo science useful
> perhaps to functional potters but basically meaningless in terms of
> actually understanding what goes on in the glaze melt and glaze cooling and
> final structure of the glaze.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:41 AM, carol at knighten.org wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi
> >
> > In response to Hank Murrows request for a discussion of the role of P2O5,
> > potassium pentoxide in a glaze -
> >
> > It is known to be a glass former, In their paper:
> >
> > On the glass transition and viscosity of phosphorus pentoxide
> > S. W. MartinC. A. Angell
> > Cite this: J. Phys. Chem. 1986, 90, 25, 6736-6740
> > Publication Date:December 1, 1986
> >
> > There is no discussion of whether P2O5 is a glass former, i.e. that is
> > accepted as known.  The purpose of that paper is rather to establish the
> glass
> > transition temperature of P2O5.
> >
> > In the book Silicate Glasses and Melts, B.O.Mysen and P Richet, Elsevie,
> 2005,
> > in chapter 13 on phosphorus, give a discussion of the role of phosphorus
> > in silicate melts, evidence is given that phosphorus is found in
> tetrahedral
> > coordination as part of the glassy network.
> >
> > It would seem that P2O5 also is a glass former and in column three of the
> > empirical formula.
> >
> > Carol
> >
> > --
> > ============================
> >    Carol Marians
> >    (541) 296-4528
> >  carol at knighten.org
> > http://carol.knighten.org
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> >
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:50:25 -0700
> From: sumi <sumi at herwheel.com>
> To: clayart at lists.clayartworld.com
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] pickle buckets
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> Alice
>
> While I don't mind pickle smell, perhaps you could pick up buckets from
> the grocery store bakery instead. I go to the local Safeway or King
> Soopers or whatever supermarket is in your area, and ask for frosting
> buckets. You have to go in the morning when they are icing the donuts,
> and the buckets are shorter than? pickle buckets, but the same diameter.
> Frosting is easy to clean out.
>
> Sumi
> > I recently moved and am setting up my studio. I have been looking for 5
> gallon buckets for glazes and a number of locals have kindly offered their
> empty buckets for free. I picked up 2 buckets from a restaurant today. The
> buckets had contained pickles. I am wondering if the vinegar / acetic acid
> that has soaked into the plastic will leach into my glazes and the acidic
> pH will affect the glazes. I am soaking them overnight in detergent, but I
> suspect that there will still be vinegar in the plastic. They definitely
> smell. Has anybody had experience with pickle buckets?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alice
> >
> > Alice DeLisle
> >
> > wanderland at att.net
> > https://www.facebook.com/IslandTexturesAliceDeLisle/
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/alice_delisle/sets/
> >
> > "Not all those who wander are lost?" ? J.R.R.Tolkien
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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