[Clayart] AUTOMATION -

Robert Harris robertgharris at gmail.com
Sun Sep 12 04:33:45 UTC 2021

You can definitely tell the difference from something designed by a
committee (or even worse, the accountants). IKEA designs their mugs and
furniture specifically to take advantage of kiln size and container size,
not based on any aesthetic objectives.

So basically you are deliberately and obtusely (as usual, of course),
missing the various nuances of the word "design".

Do you get your rocks off doing that?

On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 11:28, paul gerhold <gerholdclay at gmail.com> wrote:

> Every product ever made has been designed by a person or group of persons.
> So the idea that coming from a person makes something unique clearly does
> not separate handmade or art in any way from everything ever made.
> Paul
> Sent from my iPad
> > On Sep 9, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Carolyn Curran <cncpots2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, the everlasting debates we so love to engage in.. art versis craft,
> > hand building versus wheel, commercial versus original glazes...
> > Adding my own two cents,  I have nothing against the wheel, plaster
> molds,
> > extrusions, even 3D printing as long as the design and the idea come from
> > the potter, but  I guess I have a real thing against clay stamps and
> > imprinted design rollers which are not designed by the potter using them
> > but are manufactured by someone else.   I occasionally  use clay stamps
> and
> > imprints in my work, but  they  are ones which I have designed myself.
> > Snobbish maybe, but so be it.   There are wonderful  stamp and roller
> > designs out there which are commercially available, but it bugs me that
> the
> > potter is  not the originator of the design he or she uses.   Yes,  some
> > potters do creative things using stamps and rollers they have not
> designed,
> > and of course nature has provided many found objects we incorporate in
> our
> > work (like  leaves, shells, flowers, interesting rock textures, etc.).
> > Some of my most creative slab work a few years ago was the result of
> using
> > plaster molds  i made of huge elephant ear leaves.  I would roll out a
> > clay slab on the mold, selecting one area or/or angle to use in the
> design,
> > and no two were alike.  I had taken something from nature and made it my
> > own.   And how many potters  have impressed leaves and other plant
> material
> > into clay and created their own individual form  or treatment ?   Well,
> > guys,  who feels  like  adding to this discussion?
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