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gerholdclay at gmail.com
Sun Sep 12 14:58:44 UTC 2021
Obviously you need to learn a bit about multi part molds and of course 3D printing.
And I really doubt production potters spend a whole lot of time thinking about design of each individual piece. And I don't share your opinion that production potters might as well be machines.
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> On Sep 12, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Robert Harris <robertgharris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Besides, I never said that design made something handmade, I said that
> handmade things could be designed in a way that automated manufacturing
> cannot be (because of expense), things such as banding, undercutting of a
> foot etc.
> More egregious to my mind are the potters who make things without thinking.
> Without designing.
> When a beginner makes a pot, there is no design, they're happy with
> whatever the clay has allowed them to do. When a supposed professional sits
> down and makes the same pot for the 1000th time, without thinking, without
> truly looking ... then shame on them, they're no better than a machine.
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 11:28 paul gerhold <gerholdclay at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Every product ever made has been designed by a person or group of persons.
>> So the idea that coming from a person makes something unique clearly does
>> not separate handmade or art in any way from everything ever made.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Carolyn Curran <cncpots2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ah, the everlasting debates we so love to engage in.. art versis craft,
>>> hand building versus wheel, commercial versus original glazes...
>>> Adding my own two cents, I have nothing against the wheel, plaster
>>> extrusions, even 3D printing as long as the design and the idea come from
>>> the potter, but I guess I have a real thing against clay stamps and
>>> imprinted design rollers which are not designed by the potter using them
>>> but are manufactured by someone else. I occasionally use clay stamps
>>> imprints in my work, but they are ones which I have designed myself.
>>> Snobbish maybe, but so be it. There are wonderful stamp and roller
>>> designs out there which are commercially available, but it bugs me that
>>> potter is not the originator of the design he or she uses. Yes, some
>>> potters do creative things using stamps and rollers they have not
>>> and of course nature has provided many found objects we incorporate in
>>> work (like leaves, shells, flowers, interesting rock textures, etc.).
>>> Some of my most creative slab work a few years ago was the result of
>>> plaster molds i made of huge elephant ear leaves. I would roll out a
>>> clay slab on the mold, selecting one area or/or angle to use in the
>>> and no two were alike. I had taken something from nature and made it my
>>> own. And how many potters have impressed leaves and other plant
>>> into clay and created their own individual form or treatment ? Well,
>>> guys, who feels like adding to this discussion?
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