[Clayart] Clayart Digest, Vol 70, Issue 19

Carolyn Curran cncpots2 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 12 16:34:34 UTC 2021


I agree, Vince....And I feel as if I have made elephant ear leaf molds my
own   as well as a  simple clay   stamp I doodled in clay  1970  and still
use.  !  I left my big  elephant ear plaster mold behind when I moved from
NC and wish I had kept it.  I use very few molds of any kind in my work,
but one mold I made recently was an impression of a crocheted tablecloth my
mother had made some 60 years ago.  The tablecloth was deteriorating,  so I
figured I'd make  some hot plate mats or dessert dishes for my sisters'
families-- at least passing on her handiwork in some form.     cheers!



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>    1. thank you clayart (mel jacobson)
>    2. how many glazes are there? (mel jacobson)
>    3. rewards (Barry Salaberry)
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> From: mel jacobson <melpots at mail.com>
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> Subject: [Clayart] thank you clayart
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> Our last discussion is obviously a continuation
> of a long standing topic.  Hand Made.
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> Almost everyone understands what that means. Hand Made.
>
> When my wife came home with 5 yards of wool, she made a
> lovely coat. sewing machine, yes. needles and thread, yes
> but, she made it by hand. She made it fit her perfectly.
> No argument.
> When my mom made me a shirt or pajamas, it was all hand done.
> No argument.  One would have to be very stupid to argue that
> the sewing machine had a motor therefor, not hand made.
>
> Most craftspeople on the Earth have tools of one sort or the other
> and it does not diminish Hand Made. The buffing wheel with a motor
> in the jewelers shop does not diminish the ring just made.
>
> The potter in Madras, India making pots on a ox cart wheel sitting
> on a stone and lubed with grease was making pots by hand.
>
> The big question with automation is "how far will you let yourself
> let others determine what and how you make it?"  Can you take control
> of your art and craftsmanship? When you take huge short cuts to completion
> you will know it. One has to live with yourself.  Plagiarism is running
> amok. Don't be a part of it.
> mel
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> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 13:57:49 +0200
> From: mel jacobson <melpots at mail.com>
> To: clay art <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> Subject: [Clayart] how many glazes are there?
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> When I started in clay back in the early sixties, I had three glaze
> recipes. Leech 1234, and a temmoku, and
> a Shaner 32. That was it.
>
> How many glaze books are out there in 2021? How many recipes?  Thousands.
>
> Actually there are really only about 8. The variations are in the millions.
> But, there are really about 8. Porcelain, Stoneware and Eathenware, Glossy,
> Butter like, Matt.
>
> Bread recipes?  Flour, water, yeast, touch of salt, touch of sugar.  That
> is it...Bread.
> But books by the hundreds are published so you can make bread.
> Think about it when you play chemistry teacher.
> mel
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> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 10:54:32 -0700
> From: Barry Salaberry <bsalab at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Clayart] rewards
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> One of the best parts about making pots is finding out how well the work is
> enjoyed. Particularly with functional pots, that really helps confirm that
> the journey is heading in a good direction.
>
> This morning I happened to catch sight of several birds just having a whale
> of a time in a bird bath I brought out into the yard this Spring.
>
> It took several weeks before it was discovered, but now it seems this bath
> is on the circuit for getting that avian hygiene approval rating.
>
> Just such a splattering and sputtering and outright whirling Dervish
> behaviour was great for me to see.
>
> So, it's not just people who give good reports, but it now extends to a
> more broad appeal.
>
> Maybe I just need to get more sensitive to other sentient beings, and
> recognize when plants are really 'digging' my planters, or even the bugs
> who inhabit the undersides, enjoying shelter and peace in situ.
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> Mud to you,
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> Barry
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> From: paul gerhold <gerholdclay at gmail.com>
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> The topic about plagiarism raises an interesting question about sharing
> glaze recipes. Back when I first started in clay it seemed to be considered
> almost selfish not to share recipes. Now with so many commercial glazes for
> sale I wonder if that still applies. Also I have over the years seen
> several glazes that were made public and then vastly overused making them
> useless as a way of differentiating one's work.
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> For myself I do not share or publish glazes and find just helping with
> advice is a more responsible way of helping the next generation of potters.
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> Paul
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> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 20:28:50 -0400
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> Subject: [Clayart] Stamps and Rollers
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> I have always been surprised that so many clay artists have never explored
> the wonderful world of bisque-fired stamps and rollers.  It was an
> important
> part of my program at Tennessee Tech University's Appalachian Center for
> Craft.  All students in the intro class made bisque stamps and rollers, and
> all advanced students made LOTS of them when they took the surface design
> class.  Bisque-fired clay is porous, and thus it doesn't stick to the moist
> clay surface.  They do not work well on wet-thrown pots unless you remove
> some of the surface moisture with a rib.  I did that on a lot of pots I
> made
> in Railroad Stoneware, my studio in Northern California in the late 70s and
> early 80s.  You can see that work on the "Railroad Stoneware" page of the
> gallery section on my website.
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>
>
> Even if you are copying a historic pattern when making a stamp or a roller,
> you make it your own.  There are quite a few variations on bisque stamps
> and
> rollers, and they are all explained in the handout on my website.  I see no
> reason why anyone should use commercially-made pattern stamps and rollers,
> because they just make your work look like the work of other people who use
> the same stamps or rollers.  Why not make your own?  It's easy and very
> satisfying.  Go to the documents and handouts page on my website and
> download the PDF handout.
>
> - Vince
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> Vince Pitelka
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> Potter, Writer, Teacher
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> Chapel Hill, NC
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