[Clayart] Clayart Digest, Vol 86, Issue 7

Fri Jan 6 04:29:35 UTC 2023

I used to use a commercial latex for much the same purpose but it really
became clumpy and nasty. A local supplier said they didn't carry it but to
use latex caulk! I've done that with some success. I thin latex caulk with
water and india ink (for color). It works fairly well but not as well as
super fresh commercial latex I originally used. I would love to find some
commercial latex that didn't get all clumpy and nasty to the point that you
could not effectively thin it. For either the commercial version or the
latex caulk the liquid soap on your brush really helps!
Lynda Katz
Katz Pottery
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Independence, LA 70443
985-878-6441
mobile 985-320-9728
fax 985-878-3909
katzpottery at gmail.com
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> From: <vincepitelka at gmail.com>
> To: "'Clayart international pottery discussion forum'"
>         <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Liquid latex
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> Hi Ginger -
> Ah, yes, I see now why the latex is the only thing that works for you.
> The ability to selectively peel it off is a big advantage for additive
> glazing involving multiple overlapping designs or marks.
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Potter, Writer, Teacher
> Chapel Hill, NC
> vpitelka at dtccom.net
> www.vincepitelka.com
> https://chathamartistsguild.org/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartworld.com> On Behalf Of
> Ginger Dunlap-Dietz
> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2023 10:56 AM
> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum <
> clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Liquid latex
>
> Hi Vince-
> Thanks for your follow up on wax resist.  And when my production warrants
> clean bottoms I?ll use it That appproach.
> Right now wax won?t work to allow me to layer glazes as in a sort of plaid
> where I need to mask parts of the design.  I like pulling up the latex from
> a glazed part so that I can add a different glaze over that part.
> Maybe some one out there has encountered liquid latex for a similar use.
> -ginger d-d
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 7:17 PM <vincepitelka at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ginger -
> > I can't help you with the latex thinner, but I used hot wax very
> > safely for ten years in my studio in northern California.  The secret
> > to using hot wax safely is to not heat it so hot.  Use a good electric
> > frying pan or electric stew pot and keep the temperature at 180.  Add
> > a bit of mineral oil to the melted paraffin to get the brushing
> > consistency you want.  Use natural fiber brushes that won't be damaged
> by the hot wax.
> >
> > In California I was doing fairly high production, and for my wax I was
> > using a electric stew pot - like an electric frying pan but deeper.  I
> > drilled holes on opposite sides to support an axle, and mounted a
> > natural-bristle paint roller on the axle so that the lower portion of
> > the roller was in the wax.  I'd regularly add more wax and mineral oil
> > to maintain the level.  With that setup, the foot of any pot could be
> > rolled against the paint roller to wax it, and with a fairly short-nap
> > roller, the wax would come up a uniform 1/8" on the sides.
> > - Vince
> >
> > Vince Pitelka
> > Potter, Writer, Teacher
> > Chapel Hill, NC
> > vpitelka at dtccom.net
> > www.vincepitelka.com
> > https://chathamartistsguild.org/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartworld.com> On Behalf Of
> > Ginger Dunlap-Dietz
> > Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 10:52 AM
> > To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum <
> > clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> > Subject: [Clayart] Liquid latex
> >
> > It?s possible that my question about using liquid latex got lost in the
> > recent quiet time but I still would like an answer.   I use liquid latex
> > for masking in glaze application and would like to know what to use As
> > a thinner. What brand is most useful? And what are some suggestions for
> use?
> > Wax resist doesn?t work for multi layer glaze masking and honestly
> > don?t like having to wipe glaze off the wax before firing.
> >
> > Thanks for responding in the New Year.  Good one to all.
> >
> > ginger d-d
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> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 11:54:25 -0700
> From: sumi <sumi at herwheel.com>
> To: clayart at lists.clayartworld.com
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Liquid latex
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> Ginger
>
> You are not getting a lot of answers perhaps because we don't have the
> answers.
>
> I've worked with latex but I have never tried to thin it. Since it
> washes off with water, I would try water as a thinner first.
>
> The one thing I do know about working with latex is the need to soap
> your brush; some people dip in liquid soap, or you can rub your wet
> brush on a bar of soap.
>
> And I know it is important to build up a thick enough layer that it will
> peel off without tearing.
>
> I've worked with a couple of brands, most recently Laguna's. In the old
> days it smelled like ammonia but it doesn't any more, thank goodness.
>
> I have seen students successfully apply liquid latex over an underglaze
> and peel it off without removing the underglaze. I'm not sure if you can
> peel it off a glaze as successfully.
>
> Sumi
> > Hi Vince-
> > Thanks for your follow up on wax resist.  And when my production warrants
> > clean bottoms I?ll use it
> > That appproach.
> > Right now wax won?t work to allow me to layer glazes as in a sort of
> plaid
> > where I need to mask parts of the design.  I like pulling up the latex
> from
> > a glazed part so that I can add a different glaze over that part.
> > Maybe some one out there has encountered liquid latex for a similar use.
> > -ginger d-d
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 7:17 PM <vincepitelka at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ginger -
> >> I can't help you with the latex thinner, but I used hot wax very safely
> >> for ten years in my studio in northern California.  The secret to using
> hot
> >> wax safely is to not heat it so hot.  Use a good electric frying pan or
> >> electric stew pot and keep the temperature at 180.  Add a bit of mineral
> >> oil to the melted paraffin to get the brushing consistency you want.
> Use
> >> natural fiber brushes that won't be damaged by the hot wax.
> >>
> >> In California I was doing fairly high production, and for my wax I was
> >> using a electric stew pot - like an electric frying pan but deeper.  I
> >> drilled holes on opposite sides to support an axle, and mounted a
> >> natural-bristle paint roller on the axle so that the lower portion of
> the
> >> roller was in the wax.  I'd regularly add more wax and mineral oil to
> >> maintain the level.  With that setup, the foot of any pot could be
> rolled
> >> against the paint roller to wax it, and with a fairly short-nap roller,
> the
> >> wax would come up a uniform 1/8" on the sides.
> >> - Vince
> >>
> >> Vince Pitelka
> >> Potter, Writer, Teacher
> >> Chapel Hill, NC
> >> vpitelka at dtccom.net
> >> www.vincepitelka.com
> >> https://chathamartistsguild.org/
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartworld.com> On Behalf Of
> >> Ginger Dunlap-Dietz
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 10:52 AM
> >> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum <
> >> clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> >> Subject: [Clayart] Liquid latex
> >>
> >> It?s possible that my question about using liquid latex got lost in the
> >> recent quiet time but I still would like an answer.   I use liquid latex
> >> for masking in glaze application and would like to know what to use As a
> >> thinner. What brand is most useful? And what are some suggestions for
> use?
> >> Wax resist doesn?t work for multi layer glaze masking and honestly don?t
> >> like having to wipe glaze off the wax before firing.
> >>
> >> Thanks for responding in the New Year.  Good one to all.
> >>
> >> ginger d-d
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> --
> Sumi von Dassow
> President, Beulah Valley Arts Council
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:11:17 -0500
> From: Lois Wilkins <claywork13 at gmail.com>
> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum
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> Yes, it did. Yay!
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> Lois
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> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 11:23 AM Terry Lazaroff <terrylazaroff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > I am going to send this msg. Val the various e-mail platforms.
> > This one is from terrylazaroff at gmail.com
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> > Terry
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> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 17:07:38 -0500
> From: ronroy at ca.inter.net
> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum
>         <clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>, sumi <sumi at herwheel.com>
> Cc: clayart at lists.clayartworld.com
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Liquid latex
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> Just to make a point - glazes can be modified to be tougher in a
> number of ways. I am going to assume that latex will work on some
> glazes but not on others. I have almost no experience with latex so I
> have no actual experience with the problem but I'm sure there are a
> number of solutions.
>
> Happy to help if I can just for the joy in it.
>
> RR
>
>
> Quoting sumi <sumi at herwheel.com>:
>
> > Ginger
> >
> > You are not getting a lot of answers perhaps because we don't have
> > the answers.
> >
> > I've worked with latex but I have never tried to thin it. Since it
> > washes off with water, I would try water as a thinner first.
> >
> > The one thing I do know about working with latex is the need to soap
> > your brush; some people dip in liquid soap, or you can rub your wet
> > brush on a bar of soap.
> >
> > And I know it is important to build up a thick enough layer that it
> > will peel off without tearing.
> >
> > I've worked with a couple of brands, most recently Laguna's. In the
> > old days it smelled like ammonia but it doesn't any more, thank
> > goodness.
> >
> > I have seen students successfully apply liquid latex over an
> > underglaze and peel it off without removing the underglaze. I'm not
> > sure if you can peel it off a glaze as successfully.
> >
> > Sumi
> >> Hi Vince-
> >> Thanks for your follow up on wax resist.  And when my production
> warrants
> >> clean bottoms I?ll use it
> >> That appproach.
> >> Right now wax won?t work to allow me to layer glazes as in a sort of
> plaid
> >> where I need to mask parts of the design.  I like pulling up the latex
> from
> >> a glazed part so that I can add a different glaze over that part.
> >> Maybe some one out there has encountered liquid latex for a similar use.
> >> -ginger d-d
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 7:17 PM <vincepitelka at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Ginger -
> >>> I can't help you with the latex thinner, but I used hot wax very safely
> >>> for ten years in my studio in northern California.  The secret to
> using hot
> >>> wax safely is to not heat it so hot.  Use a good electric frying pan or
> >>> electric stew pot and keep the temperature at 180.  Add a bit of
> mineral
> >>> oil to the melted paraffin to get the brushing consistency you want.
> Use
> >>> natural fiber brushes that won't be damaged by the hot wax.
> >>>
> >>> In California I was doing fairly high production, and for my wax I was
> >>> using a electric stew pot - like an electric frying pan but deeper.  I
> >>> drilled holes on opposite sides to support an axle, and mounted a
> >>> natural-bristle paint roller on the axle so that the lower portion of
> the
> >>> roller was in the wax.  I'd regularly add more wax and mineral oil to
> >>> maintain the level.  With that setup, the foot of any pot could be
> rolled
> >>> against the paint roller to wax it, and with a fairly short-nap
> roller, the
> >>> wax would come up a uniform 1/8" on the sides.
> >>> - Vince
> >>>
> >>> Vince Pitelka
> >>> Potter, Writer, Teacher
> >>> Chapel Hill, NC
> >>> vpitelka at dtccom.net
> >>> www.vincepitelka.com
> >>> https://chathamartistsguild.org/
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Clayart <clayart-bounces at lists.clayartworld.com> On Behalf Of
> >>> Ginger Dunlap-Dietz
> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2023 10:52 AM
> >>> To: Clayart international pottery discussion forum <
> >>> clayart at lists.clayartworld.com>
> >>> Subject: [Clayart] Liquid latex
> >>>
> >>> It?s possible that my question about using liquid latex got lost in the
> >>> recent quiet time but I still would like an answer.   I use liquid
> latex
> >>> for masking in glaze application and would like to know what to use As
> a
> >>> thinner. What brand is most useful? And what are some suggestions for
> use?
> >>> Wax resist doesn?t work for multi layer glaze masking and honestly
> don?t
> >>> like having to wipe glaze off the wax before firing.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for responding in the New Year.  Good one to all.
> >>>
> >>> ginger d-d
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> > --
> > Sumi von Dassow
> > President, Beulah Valley Arts Council
> >
> >
>
>
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> Ron Roy
> ronroy at ca.inter.net
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